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Question Mark: AFL isn't under-represented
Updated: August 21, 2010, 8:54 AM
The News' Mark Gaughan answers your questions.
Q: You said Tom Sestak didn't play long enough to earn enshrinement in the Hall of
Fame. That's interesting as there are others that played less, yet made it. What you should
have said was Tom didn't play any games after the merger to "legitimize" his career against
NFL talent. ... I visited the HOF on Kelly's induction and was appalled by the lack of equal
representation from the AFL. — Mike Powenski.
A: My short answer is: The AFL is slightly under-represented in the Hall. But only slightly.
Let's compare the numbers. For the first six years of the "60s there were 14 NFL teams and
eight AFL teams. By 1967 it was 16 vs. 9, then it went to 16 vs. 10. So the NFL had a little
less than double the number of players. You'd expect it would have a little less than double
the number of Hall of Famers. Also the AFL was a start-up league so it took several years,
let's say until 1963 or '64, for the caliber of play to be equal to the NFL.
Complicating the comparison is the obvious fact the NFL existed before 1960 and the AFL
didn't. With that in mind, here we go: There are 14 AFL players who served four or more years
in the Hall. If you count guys who played three or two seasons (including guys like Willie
Lanier and Gene Upshaw), the AFL has 23 Hall members. Using that same criteria of players who
started in 1960 or later, the NFL has 25 players with four-plus years and 30 players if you
count those who started in 1967 or 1968. That's 14 vs. 25; or 23 vs. 30. There are four more
NFL players in the Hall whose careers started in 1958. There are another six whose careers
started in 1957 (including Jim Brown and Paul Hornung).
I'd put Chiefs safety Johnny Robinson at the top of the list of AFL guys who should be in.
Next would be ex-Raiders personnel man Ron Wolf. No. 3 would be Chiefs OT Jim Tyrer and then
Chiefs WR Otis Taylor. Broncos RB Floyd Little is a candidate this year. He's borderline.
Patroits DT Houston Antwine and Denver WR Lionel Taylor are close. But former News columnist
Larry Felser puts them in the Hall of Very Good, not the Hall of Fame. I've given my two cents
on Sestak. I respect your right to disagree.
Q: Does the NFL have the same rules leaguewide for what is allowed to be brought into
stadiums? For instance the Bills allow no bags larger than 12 inches square, but in Oakland
you can bring in shoulder pads with huge spikes affixed to them. Does each franchise make its
rules? — Greg Kozak.
A: I'm told the NFL gives each franchise "best practices" guidelines that it strongly
recommends, and those are widely followed throughout the league. So it's about the same in
every city. Oakland has a habit of doing things its own way, but I'm not sure about its
guidelines.
Q: With the new rule regarding no force-outs on receptions, why don't defensive backs
practice catching receivers when they are up in the air near the sidelines and carrying them
out of bounds? — Cal Tuohey, Medina.
A: That's a no-no. NFL officials have the leeway to rule a receiver in bounds if the defender
uses a "catch and carry" tactic. If a player catches the ball and is actually picked up and
carried out of bounds by a defender, it can still be called a catch. Shoving, pushing and
nudging once the receiver catches the ball all are fair game for defenders.
Bills beat reporter Mark Gaughan answers your football questions every Friday, online and
in the paper. Send your e-mails to mgaughan@buffnews.com, or join his live chat at 11 a.m. on
the BillBoard blog.
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