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David Persons: Literalness is costing churches their membership

Published:May 1, 2011, 12:00 AM

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Updated: May 2, 2011, 12:08 PM

 

The Catholic Diocese of Buffalo is not alone questioning the “mass exodus” from its services; Protestants also do. As a Presbyterian minister here for more than 30 years, I watched our local Presbytery lose thousands as churches closed.

Many claim, as reporter Jay Tokasz shared, the cause is secularism. I disagree. The major cause is beliefs no longer giving credibility to reason and modern scholarship. After centuries, the Catholic Church recognized scientists Copernicus and Galileo. How long before the traditional churches admit that literalizing stories of the Bible has no historical basis?

Current archaeological and historical studies depict 95 percent of the Bible with no historical basis. With no historical proof of a man named Jesus and repetitions of similar stories going back 20,000 years, the traditional approach to Christian scripture interpretations is changing.

The biblical stories were mostly borrowed and taken from ancient pagan (folk) sources, which shared these stories as allegories depicting eternal truths. These stories were part of the ancient eastern Mediterranean spiritual teachings using the lunar calendar to teach universal spiritual truths. The church literalized these old pagan stories, making forms, liturgy and government inviolate. The message of the Jesus story, as from Isus of Ancient Egypt, was simple; the presence of spirit, the realm of God, is within us. One experiences this presence by changing understanding (repentance) and looking within. The church made the teachings external as something we do by attending to certain rituals.

Today most would laugh if someone told them a man could walk on water, change water into wine or raise various people from the dead. No longer having church law as state law, masses can freely turn away from these claims, which have no historical or scientific basis. Using contemporary music with mindless words and talks amplified in “inviting buildings” won’t last.

I seek to share these stories from a symbolic, allegorical viewpoint. The winter solstice at Christmas teaches the soul coming to the darkness of Earth. The Easter equinox is the seed emerging from darkness into the light of sun, symbolizing our awakening (meaning of resurrection).

The old pagan stories are rich with meaning and relevance if understood from a non-literal viewpoint. Early church teachers who taught this view were called Gnostics — “those who understand.” In the 4th century the church declared them pagan heretics, with most of their writings destroyed.

Until the church faces reality, ceasing the exclusive, ignorant judgment on others, the mass exodus will continue. The good news is people are finding this inclusive, universal, ancient message outside of traditional churches. The future bodes well for a renewed spiritual awakening; it doesn’t for a harsh literalness beyond the realms of reason.

The Rev. David Persons of Hamburg is a retired Presbyterian pastor.

 

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Mr. Persons, a retired Presbyterian minister, has defamed the memory of Presbyterianism's founder (Scottish reformer John Knox) by writing "The major cause is beliefs no longer giving credibility to reason and modern scholarship...How long before the traditional churches admit that literalizing stories of the Bible has no historical basis?" Worse, he denies certain core doctrines of the Christian faith - doctrines that distinguish Christian from non-Christian - such as the birth, death and resurrection of Christ and the inspiration and inerrancy of scripture (in the original autographs).

The author's views are not new: some of them were declared heretical nearly 2000 years ago while others are clearly from the Alexandrian School of the second and third centuries.

Mr. Persons comes from a sect of Christianity that long taught a monergistic view of salvation (i.e. salvation is entirely God's doing and that man doesn't bring anything to the table - that even faith itself is a gift from God). It stands to reason that if salvation is entirely God's doing, and if salvation is what brings people into the Church, then whether a particular local expression of the Church loses or gains members is also God's doing. The Church's job, according to the New Testament, is to communicate the gospel - a message that includes the death (as a propitiatory penal substitution) and resurrection of a very literal Jesus - while the results are God's job (since, as Jesus said, no one can come to Him unless God draws them, and all those whom the Father has given to Jesus will come to Him).

Churches need to stop playing the numbers game where "success" is measured by how many people sit in the pews or have signed a membership roll.

CHANCELLOR CARLYLE ROBERTS II, BUFFALO, NY on Wed May 4, 2011 at 05:16 PM

A great deal of modern archeological discoveries have validated specific details found in the Gospels:
* In 1961 a mosaic from the third century was found in Caesarea Maritima that had the name "Nazareth" in it. It is one of the first known ancient non-biblical references to Nazareth.
* Coins with the names of the Herod family have been discovered, including the names of Herod the king, Herod the tetrarch of Galilee (who killed John the Baptist), Herod Agrippa I (who killed James Zebedee), and Herod Agrippa II (before whom Paul testified).
* In 1990 an ossuary was found inscribed with the Aramaic words, "Joseph son of Caiaphas," believed to be a reference to the high priest Caiaphas.
* In 1968 an ossuary was discovered near Jerusalem bearing the bones of a man who had been executed by crucifixion in the first century. They are the only known remains of a man crucified in Roman Palestine and verify the descriptions given in the Gospels of Jesus Crucifixion.
* In June, 1961, Italian archaeologists excavating an ancient Roman amphitheatre near Caesarea-on-the-Sea (Maritima) uncovered a limestone block. On its face is an inscription (part of a larger dedication to Tiberius Caesar) that reads: "Pontius Pilate, Prefect of Judaea."

The Jewish historian Josephus and the Roman historian Tacitus are non-Christian sources that historians have looked to for evidence of Jesus of Nazareth's existence. In fact, Tacitus specifically refers to "Christus" and not Paul as the founder of Christianity. He wrote that Christ was executed under Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Additionally, he stated that Judea was the source of the Christian movement. All of those things agree with the Gospels.

TERENCE STANTON, ORCHARD PARK, NY on Sun May 1, 2011 at 02:41 PM

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