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Published:February 26, 2011, 12:00 AM

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Updated: February 27, 2011, 6:28 AM

There may be nobody in New York State more focused on faraway Wisconsin these days than County Executive Chris Collins.

That’s because if ever two political leaders were more simpatico in dealing with municipal unions, it would be Collins and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

“What they’re doing is potentially revolutionary,” Collins said of Wisconsin last week. “It’s what taxpayers are demanding, and it’s what we’re sure not delivering in New York State.”

Like Walker, Collins was elected on promises of new and tough dealings with municipal unions. And like Walker, he takes a hard line in contract negotiations that he believes are revolutionary in their own right. That includes offers to the county’s four top unions featuring givebacks on summer hours, loss of retiree health insurance for new hires and health insurance contributions for new hires.

In return, for the two unions that accepted his offer (two others overwhelmingly turned thumbs down), 3 percent pay hikes were reflected in their checks.

“This is not about take-home pay,” he said, “but benefits that are unaffordable, unsustainable and unavailable for the people who pay for them.”

Management, Collins and Walker both say, should “take control” of such matters — leaving wages to the bargaining table.

Walker takes it further—demanding an end to collective bargaining. And Collins agrees.

“Gov. Walker recognizes you just can’t negotiate these things,” he said. “These people are in denial. They want to go back to ‘Leave it to Beaver’ days. I’m sorry. Those days are gone.”

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo talks about the same things. But this is New York, where the Triborough Amendment allows contracts to continue in effect after their lapse.

Still, when you come right down to it, Cuomo will fix his $10 billion deficit because the state Constitution says he must. And he will do it without nixing collective bargaining.

While Cuomo’s stance is gaining generally good reviews even from conservatives, Collins is far from satisfied. He thinks the same situation will result from the same cause next year.

“Instead of basic reform of Medicaid or repeal of binding arbitration and Triborough,” the county executive said, “he’s talking about new taxes on hospitals and cuts in education. There’s a lot of rhetoric, but as we go through that budget, it’s loaded with cost sharing.”

But doesn’t the Walker approach amount to good, old-fashioned union busting, County Executive Collins?

Municipalities don’t go out of business or move away, Collins counters, they simply raise taxes to cover costs. Then he adds a favorite argument — that all of this is codified into law by politicians dependent on municipal unions for contributions.

But once again, is it union busting? “I support what the governor is doing,” the county executive answered. “Frankly, in the real world, there is no other way.”

This is all especially pertinent as Republican Collins seeks re-election in a part of the world that’s not only heavily Democratic but still unionized. This is the same Erie County that liked his message in 2007, but seems to like Cuomo, too.

Collins will tell voters this fall that he did what he said he would do as he runs a 2011 campaign of “promises made, promises kept.” It will now prove interesting in this election year if he still dwells on ideas like ending collective bargaining.

If he is successful in Democratic and unionized Erie County, the bet here is that he would like to try the same ideas in Democratic and unionized New York State.

And the bet is also that he believes the best venue for that venture just might be that big house on Albany’s Eagle Street.

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"I do not think that too many people thought that a guy like Carl Paladino could carry 12 counties, but he did."

Actually, he took 13 counties. One was close by to Albany, and it found the vote 47 percent between the two; Paladino had a few more votes than Cuomo.

Anyway, given that the nine westernmost counties(Erie, Niagara, Orleans, Genesee, Wyoming, Steuben, Allegany, Cattaraugus, and Chautauqua) all voted together for Paladino, that therefore makes us our own state/commonwealth... the Commonwealth of Niagara. This thus gives us Carl Paladino and Gregory Edwards as our Governor/Lt-Governor team.

Let us think like it, act like it, celebrate it, revel in it, and embrace it... WE ARE the Commonwealth of Niagara!

Want "Western NY"? Go to Rochester, Elmira, Mt. Morris/Geneseo, and anywhere else outside of the above-noted nine-county territory.

Now, back to Wisconsin... KUDOS to Governor Walker and the legislators who stood home and did their jobs! They effectively told those whose livelihoods depend on the taxpayers that they must live by the SAME realities the taxpayers face!

This should be modeled by all the remaining US states/commonwealths, including ours... THE COMMONWEALTH OF NIAGARA.

LLOYD MARSHALL, LOCKPORT, NY on Fri Mar 11, 2011 at 07:51 PM

"Very interesting column. The comments show amply that New York State as whole is a universe away from Wisconsin. "
Not a universe away, just behind the curve. The cheeseheads led the way on allowing public sector unions back in 1959, and now they are leading the way in curtailing their power. New York will follow in time, as there is no other way to correct the structural public spending imbalances.

I do not think that too many people thought that a guy like Carl Paladino could carry 12 counties, but he did. Cuomo is trying to govern by co-opting the unions, but in doing so he is avoiding taking the big steps necessary to break NY's tax and spend habits.

DON NOWAK, WEST VALLEY, NY on Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 02:24 PM

Very interesting column. The comments show amply that New York State as whole is a universe away from Wisconsin.

DOUGLAS TURNER, SPRINGFIELD, VA on Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 01:46 PM

The "union busting" tag is a red herring used to smear those that understand the need for local governments and school boards to have the tools to run more efficient operations. Almost all governors, including Cuomo, Christie, and Walker, are cutting back on local and school aid from the states they govern.

For these localities to survive without massive property tax increases, they must be allowed to economize and reduce cost. That cannot be achieved if every reorganization or change in the workplace must be negotiated with a union.

Some of the most egregious practices are a result of collective bargaining at the local level. Prime examples are the rubber rooms in NYC, the Buffalo teachers cosmetic surgery coverage, and their requirement for three health plans. Besides those, we have the reinstatement of deputies responsible for the escape of Bucky Phillips and an unprovoked attack on a helpless inmate.

All of these shockingly wasteful and immoral practices are a direct result of collective bargaining agreements. Collins and Walker are right, local government will never be able to achieve the needed reforms and savings without curtailing abusive collective bargaining practices.

DON NOWAK, WEST VALLEY, NY on Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Everyone knows politics is money driven, even the union leaders. That's why they support their favorites with money. It gives the negotiators extra chips when bargaining. Apparently the union leaders are smarter than the politicians. Would you buy a used car from that politician? Bargaining is bargaining; whether in a dealer's cube or around a conference table.

GEORGE DENECKE, SPRINGVILLE, NY on Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 08:44 AM

Gotta love King Collins! Be careful when someone campaigns on running gov't like a business- that's code for pay the guys in the suits more and the rest get the crumbs. Collins constantly complains about the unionized employees supposedly getting paid better than the private sector. But when he hires people for his inner circle he asks for more money for those patronage positions because the lawyers and business people he wants on his staff would make more in the private sector. Can't have it both ways King Collins.

CHRIS CERRONE, SPRINGVILLE, NY on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 08:33 PM

Is there another County Executive in this State who forces the legislature, the comptroller, and everyone else to sue him and HIS government just to get basic things done? Or who willfully disobeys court orders on matters like the Holding Center? Who ever said that we need more businessmen in elected political positions needs to cite some successful examples, because what we're seeing now is proving the exact opposite. Collins is a typical Repubican. ME ME ME. And he will be a one-term CE. He has spent more taxpayer money defending lawsuits and appeals that HE forces than he ever would have saved if it never happened. I'm a taxpayer and a voter, and I don't want THIS!!!

PETER GUIDO, BUFFALO, NY on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 06:46 PM

"Collins for HIS future". That should be what is on his campaign signs in the next election.


I wonder how many more lawsuits he can loose and cost the county money in the coming months. He just lost the one about part time workers.

Now we have to pay these workers thousands in back wages and for vacations that they never took.

Unless he blows a few more thousand of OUR money on another appeal. I'd like to be the head of the firm that the county uses, talk about a cash cow. I wonder how much the county has spent on lawsuits that they have to know that they are going to loose. Then again, Collins isn't paying, so why should he care??

JEREMY LEWIS, BUFFALO, NY on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 05:03 PM

"Silly me ! I thought Chris Collins and the governor of Wisconsin were elected by the majority of the voters - which is made up mostly by the middle class - in Erie county and Wisconsin. So you see Richard ... "
Except that Scott Walker never talked once about ending collective bargaining during his campaign. And his popularity in Wisconsin now is a lot lower than it is in other parts of the country.

polling memo Sunday showing that Walkers approval rating is under water with likely voters, with 51 percent disapproving. And specifically regarding the Madison showdown, Walker is the least popular figure among those surveyed, with 43 percent of likely voters agreeing with his stance and 53 percent disagreeing; contrast that with state GOP lawmakers (48-46 agree), state Democratic lawmakers (56-39), Unions (59-37), the protesters (62-31), and public employees (67-24)

What that means is that he is not as popular as the GOP is in Wisconsin now, because several GOP leaders have urged him to drop it since he won the wage and health care issues already.

The Democrats in WI are now leading the GOP 56-39, and the Unions are doing even better, with an approval rating of 59.

The real telling point is that the protesters are far ahead, and even the public employees are winning in popularity.

What does that say to you?

JEREMY LEWIS, BUFFALO, NY on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 04:53 PM

Chris Collins says Unions are living in a "Leave It To Beaver" world. Collins lives in a world of "Collins Knows Best." Of course he loves the Dictator in Wisconsin. He undoubtedly loves Khaddaffi, too.

DAVE GODDARD, WILLIAMSVILLE, NY on Sun Feb 27, 2011 at 02:54 PM

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