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Updated: July 29, 2011, 1:14 PM

WASHINGTON -- House Republicans today modified their two-step bill to raise the nation's debt ceiling, tying the second step to a requirement that Congress ratify a constitutional amendment mandating a balanced budget, in hopes of winning enough tea party backing to allow the bill to pass later today.

Meanwhile, the Senate took up legislation to raise the debt ceiling in one fell swoop, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the latest House approach will only drive the two houses farther apart only four days before the nation reaches its debt limit -- which could prompt a federal default.

"They've given the right wing even more than they've had before," Reid said of House GOP leaders who modified the bill.

But Republicans said that thanks to the new balanced-budget provision, the House bill is moving in the right direction.

"I think that's the kind of systemic reform that a lot of us want to see to raise the debt ceiling," Rep. Joe Walsh, an Illinois Republican and tea party favorite, said on C-SPAN.

The release of the revised Republican plan came not long after Reid announced plans to move forward with his own legislation and President Obama spoke to the nation for the second time this week to urge a bipartisan solution to the debt crisis.

"The time for putting party first is over," Obama said. "The time for compromise on behalf of the American people is now. And I am confident that we can solve this problem. I'm confident we will solve this problem."

Obama again urged Americans to contact their lawmakers to urge a bipartisan solution. He said he would be working with lawmakers throughout the weekend to come up with workable legislation.

"This is not a situation where the two parties are miles apart," he said, noting similarities between Reid's plan and that offered by House Speaker John A. Boehner. "The power to solve this is in our hands."

Obama spoke as House Republicans met privately to discuss their differences. House sources said several tea party-allied members had agreed to support Boehner's bill, thanks to the addition of the provision requiring a balanced-budget amendment.

The bill must be changed into "something transformative that transcends election cycles and has some degree of permanency to it," said Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., a tea party figure who met with House leaders for several hours Thursday night.

But Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., said the revised House bill could guarantee a national default in six months, when Congress would be unable to raise the debt ceiling again without a balanced budget amendment -- which the Senate Democratic majority adamantly opposes.

"It wouldn't just make a default likely," Schumer said. "It would guarantee a default. So the Boehner plan says we won't default now but you promise you we will default by January. It is an absurd, absurd proposition."

The addition of the balanced-budget provision came after a series of meetings late Thursday and early Friday when Boehner's leadership team tried to placate and cajole tea party lawmakers into supporting the bill.

What did Boehner and Rep. Jeff Flake discuss?

"I think that's rather obvious ... There's negotiations going on," the Arizona Republican replied.

With the House dithering, Reid said he had no choice but to move forward with his own legislation, calling it possibly the last thing that could stave off default and its dire economic consequences.

Reid's move sets up a possible Senate vote on the measure just after midnight Sunday. That's the earliest the Senate, under its rules, could vote for the measure.

Amid all the controversy in the capital and in the wake of a report that the economy grew by a measly 1.3 percent in the second quarter, stock markets fell early today.

Shortly before 1 p.m., the Standard and Poor's 500-stock index was down 0.41 percent. The Dow Jones Industrial Average stood at 12,173.5, down 0.54 percent.

Republican leaders abruptly pulled their debt-ceiling legislation from the House floor shortly before 6 p.m. Thursday, instead turning the House's attention to a series of bills renaming post offices nationwide.

Earlier Thursday, Boehner, R-Ohio, said he was optimistic his debt ceiling bill would pass.

 "Let's pass this bill and end the crisis," he said. "It raises the debt limit and cuts government spending by a larger amount."

But tea party acolytes said the measure didn't cut government enough. Some refused to consider boosting the debt ceiling under any circumstances, saying the default Obama warns of was nothing but a scare tactic -- and that starvation was the only way to tame the federal beast.

"I don't believe for a moment we will lose the full faith and credit of the United States," Rep. Michele Bachmann, a Minnesota Republican and presidential contender, said at the National Press Club. "I am committed to not raising the debt ceiling."

Other Republicans said they reluctantly concluded the Boehner measure was a good start toward solving the nation's long-term debt crisis while acknowledging that the government has to borrow more in order to pay its August bills.

"It was a tough decision" to back the bill, said Rep. Tom Reed, R-Corning. "I just did some final analysis, looking at the reality of the situation, and the risks of default are real. And when I look at where the Boehner plan was going, it was consistent with going down the path of getting this place in order fiscally."

Under Boehner's plan, Congress would immediately raise the debt ceiling by $900 billion, enough to keep the government going until early 2012, when another vote could leave the government with enough money until 2013. That two-step approach contrasts with a Senate plan, backed by Obama, that would raise the debt limit once, by $2.7 trillion, to last past the 2012 election.

Boehner would cut the deficit by $917 billion, with another vote to be scheduled on up to $1.6 trillion in additional cuts to be recommended by a bipartisan panel. The Senate plan cuts spending over 10 years by $2.2 trillion, again based on recommendations of a bipartisan panel.

Boehner's measure received blistering criticism from House Democrats even before he added the balanced-budget amendment requirement to it.

Because the measure would require a three-fifths majority to raise taxes but only a simple majority to cut spending, Rep. Louise M. Slaughter said that it would inevitably lead to painful budget cuts.

"This cut-first, think-later approach would directly harm the middle class," the Fairport Democrat said. "This amendment stacks the deck in favor of future cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, while making it virtually impossible to close tax loopholes for oil companies and millionaires who own private jets."

Rep. Brian Higgins, D-Buffalo, accused Republicans of working to pass legislation that they knew would be doomed and that if enacted, would force the nation to endure another debt-ceiling drama in six months.

"It's facilitating more of the same nonsense," Higgins said. "No wonder people hate Congress."

Rep. Kathleen C. Hochul, D-Amherst, said the GOP bill's two-step increase in the debt ceiling "would just leave the economy and businesses in a state of limbo, which is catastrophically unfair to the American people."

As the two parties continued to bicker over the debt ceiling, American bankers and business people began issuing dire warnings about the consequences of a federal default.

"Failure to increase the statutory debt limit in a timely fashion could have significant and long-lasting negative impact on the U.S. economy," warned 115 business associations, including the Business Council of New York State and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, in a letter to Congress on Thursday.

The nation's largest banks, including Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase, issued a separate warning.

"A default on our nation's obligations, or a downgrade of America's credit rating, would be a tremendous blow to business and investor confidence -- raising interest rates for everyone who borrows, undermining the value of the dollar and roiling stock and bond markets -- and, therefore, dramatically worsening our nation's already difficult economic circumstances," the Financial Services Forum said in a letter to the president and Congress.

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One of the reasons that a balanced budget amendment is lunacy is what if a major hurricane were to strike a large east coast city like Boston or New York. If we need to activate FEMA and the National Guard under title 10 orders how would we pay for that? We'd need to have a special session of Congress called, introduce more spending is needed and then decide what to cut to make sure that the budget stays balanced.

Imagine the reaction of the other states that may face cuts because we need money in one region. "Why are you cutting our projects?" That would be the question.

JEREMY LEWIS, BUFFALO, NY on Sat Jul 30, 2011 at 05:08 PM

Some have justified having debt as an ok thing, I think a car loan and a mortgage is a bit different than a debt which take 40 cents on every tax dollar just to pay interest. Give me a break, its time to live within our means and stop our march towards socialism. An example - unemployment for two years - really? What the hell is the incentive to go out and find work. This country is becoming hooked on freaking entitlements, they want everyone else who works for a living to pay there way. So tired of this crap.

RICHARD OSBORNE, BUFFALO, NY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 05:53 PM

One should look no further to find the source of the Tea Party's ability to remain strong in the face of calamity than George Orwell's third dictum in 1984, "Ignorance is Strength".

ED DINSMORE, BUFFALO, NY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 04:43 PM

@Anthony

Now is not the time to change the basic way in which the Federal government collects revenue, with the exception of closing loopholes that favor corporations and individuals with gross income greater than $250,000 per year.

The fact is our federal government budget was balanced the last day President Clinton was in office; actually it was better than balanced because we had a surplus every year and if that was allowed to continue the federal deficit would be close to zero in a few years.

George Bush cut taxes (revenue) that was actually paying our bills then he compounded it by starting two wars and adding the drug prescription bill to Medicare; plus many other unfunded spending initiatives. Remember "pay as you go" ? that was the rule under Clinton.

George W. Bush damaged our government more than any President since Herbert Hoover. Now we have the Tea Party whom has one agenda, to dismantle the social programs the United States government forged over the last 50 years-Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. The Tea Party doesnt want democratic social government because that form of government ensures that all citizens share a piece of the pie as opposed to just the rich. Basically, the Tea Party does not want to pay any taxes that are required to sustain our society and provide for the greater good.

ROBERT ALLEN, LOUISVILLE, KY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 04:36 PM

All of these arguments about a balanced budget amendment would be more valid if people didn't live beyond their means in their everyday lives. Anyone who takes out a mortgage, a car loan, a student loan, a home equity line of credit, or carries a credit card balance. I don't know anyone who currently lives without carrying at least one of the aforementioned debts to pay. So to assume that the federal government can (or should) operate on a balanced budget and continue doing the business of the people when individual families can't do it is ludicrous.

KEVIN BUCHHOLTZ, BUFFALO, NY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 04:08 PM

All you clowns out there that are against a balanced budget must be on the public dole with your hands out. Whether you are a Dem or a Republican; Independant; Liberal; Consevative; Tea party or a Martian we all have to balance our household budgets and live within our means so why not the Feds ? I agree we need tax reform so everyone pays their fair share the filthy rich as well as the poor. How about a flat national sales tax on everything but food and utilities if the rich want to buy designer clothes because it has someones name on it they can pay a higher sales tax; if the drug dealer wants to buy designer sun glasses he can pay tax on it,(the drug dealer is not paying income tax now) and the rich do spend their money on ridiculasly priced homes cars and toys;
eliminate tax loopholes and deductions for interest on mortgages for 2nd homes. Cut/Cap and Balance is what my lower middle income family does. Maybe everyone else should try it befor our kids and grandkids become indentured servants to China

ANTHONY GIANCARLO, CHEEKTOWAGA, NY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 03:54 PM

To Mr. Allen: Thank you sir, you hit the nail right on its head. Now, how can we remove the blindfold from those incredulous people? Those bilndfolds that were voluntarily placed there in the name of racism? Sometimes I wonder what if Hillary Clinton would've won the Presidential elections, would she be treated in the same manner as President Obama? I assure you not. Not because she is a lady, but because she is white. Until we remove the branch of prejudism and racism from our eyes, we will continue to encounter racial dissension in our Country.

JOSE FIGUEROA, BUFFALO, NY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 03:34 PM

The truth of the matter is that the GOP does not hold a majority in the House; the Tea Party is actually a new third party that is splitting the GOP. Congress should be dissolved and new elections scheduled as would be done in a parliamentary system.

In effect, 80 Tea Party congressmen who represent about 10% of the American electorate are running Congress and our nation.

If the Reid bill (there will be a counter bill offered from the senate on Monday) is rejected by the House then Obama will be forced to raise the debt ceiling via the 14th amendment. It will hold up in federal court because without its use the economic foundation of United States will be jeopardized.

Its time for the non Tea Party middle class to stand up and protest in the streets, this so called Tea Party has the nation a the edge of default and destruction.

ROBERT ALLEN, LOUISVILLE, KY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 03:17 PM

Why is Jerry Zmemski quoting the tea party, as if they have any credibility left? Michelle Bachman's opinion about the debt debacle is no better than Curly, Larry and Moe's. Oh, she is CONFIDENT that there will be no default? Based on what, exactly, the moon, or her chats with the Almighty? Please, I've had my fill of airheads. Quote somebody with some gravitas, not some national fool why is ridiculed from coast to coast.

Then there's another quote from Rep. Joe Walsh - "a tea party favorite", another dusie who was ajudged a deadbeat dad, who owes his wife and kids thousands of dollars of child support, the kind of deadbeat that is routinely hauled in by police dragnets and thrown in the can in New York State. That's your source of financial acumen?

How about a little straight talk about the big con that is being foisted by the GOP/T, hoping that the folks back home won't catch on. Or some talk abut the intransigence of the tea party who have been planning this disaster for months. This is a procedural vote that past Republicans and Dems have routinely passed about 30 times since Reagan was in office. Suddenly a black President is in office and the entire GOP has gotten religion. Why now??? Why would the GOP win all the chips on the table, then walk away empty handed???? For the same reason I predicted 2 months ago - because they WANT a default, that's why. That's the theory I'd like explored. Why are they yearning for disaster? Why?

BOB CATALANO, DERBY, NY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 01:46 PM

The debt ceiling was last raised on February 10, 2010 from $12.104 Trillion to $14.294 Trillion.

Federal borrowing exceeded the new $14.294 trillion ceiling on May 16, 2011. The sky did not fall as Mr. Obama predicted. We are all still here and living well.

It is high time for president Obama to show some presidential leadership and stop scaring people. Mr. Obama's excessive spending is the true cause of our problems. In February he submitted a new 3.7 trillion dollar budget. Problem is Mr. Obama is 1.6 trillion dollars short on the revenue side.

Mr. Obama should go before the American people and apologize for creating this spending and debt crisis. He should voluntarily submit a new budget proposal to Congress and cut federal spending by at least $500 billion for the new fiscal year.

This act of presidential leadership will instill the confidence needed to quickly overcome the Obama debt ceiling crisis.

MICHALE SZYMANSKI, ORCHARD PARK, NY on Fri Jul 29, 2011 at 01:31 PM

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